Alysia Ross, Director, Insights and Planning, Coke Florida
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Rosanna Catalano 00:08
This is
the Floridaville get to know the people behind the Florida names you know, I'm
Rosanna Catalano, your host. On this episode we get to know Alicia Ross,
Director of insights and planning at Coke, Florida. She's a passionate omni
channel marketer. We are video streaming today's episode remotely. I'm in my
home office in Tallahassee, and Alicia speaking with us from her home. Welcome
to the show.
00:33
Thank
you. Thank
Rosanna Catalano 00:33
you for
having me. Everyone in our audience is familiar with Coca Cola and all the
beverages that they sell. But our audience may not be familiar with Coke,
Florida. Can you tell us about the company? Absolutely.
Alysia Ross
00:47
So Coke,
Florida is one of 68 different bottlers that are independently owned privately
held companies. Not at all owned by the Coca Cola company. Now you know, the
Coca Cola company as the owner of our brands. And as the creator of Superbowl
commercials and big time ad campaigns. What the bottlers do all across the
country is we make the products we bottle the product, we deliver the product
and we market the product in our own territory. So Coke, Florida is one of the
largest companies in Florida. We're the largest minority owned business in
Florida. We've got about 5000 employees. And we make all the Coca Cola product
and most of the Coca Cola products in our plants throughout the state. And we
deliver them to grocery stores and convenience stores and restaurants and
Disneyworld and Zoos and Aquariums and beaches and all the wonderful places
across the state. We're actually the third largest bottler in the system. And
we're also one of the newest, we've only been around for about five years. And
we are working every day to, you know, make ourselves part of the community and
make our brands and our team relevant in the communities that we serve.
Rosanna Catalano 02:02
I am a
huge fan of Coca Cola, they helped put me through college, I am a Coca Cola
scholarship winner of I'm not even going to say what class but they call us
Coke Classic. I'll just say that. So I'm a huge fan of coke. Can you tell us
what the insights and planning division that you're in charge of does? Yeah.
Alysia Ross
02:23
So we
are part of the marketing team. And if you think about any kind of marketing
efforts, the goal of marketing is to make people aware of your brands, and get
people to buy them. Well. The Coca Cola company out of Atlanta is really in
charge of making people aware of the brands. And look, everybody knows, like
you said everybody knows what Coca Cola is everybody has had a coke. So our
work is easy, right? It's not so much about telling people about the great
taste of coke or when to drink Coke. But it's more there's there's so many
other brands in the portfolio, we make something like 600 different brands at
different times in the years. So it may be about iced tea, maybe about waters
or our enhanced orders or brand new products that we are bringing to the
market. So what we do and insights and planning, we are planning to activate
our brands across the path to purchase. So if you think about the way it used
to be, you would make yourself a list, you go to the store and buy the
products, maybe you buy a few impulse items, and then you come home, eat the
products and do it all again. And if you think about where we are now, you can
shop anytime, anywhere, the path to purchase is no longer straight. It's no
longer about before, during and after the shop. Like I said you can get a text
and suddenly your art your online buying something you had no intention to buy
when you woke up that morning. So my job is to figure out the why. Why do
people behave the way that they do? Why do people in South Florida like certain
brands and people in North Florida like other brands? What motivates someone to
buy a certain package size? Are they entertaining? Are they in their car
driving? Are they going to the beach, so it's a lot of the data and the
analytics side for me is super exciting. I'm a giant data nerd. So for me to
know that kind of behind the scenes information of what motivates people to do
things. Is is really what gets me up in the morning. The other side of what I
do is I work with a team of folks in shopper marketing who are activating those
insights. So half of my team is providing the data providing the research the
other half of the team is is really acting on that information to help sell our
brands across the state.
Rosanna Catalano 04:43
Can I
ask which is your most popular beverage in Florida? As a whole obviously,
Alysia Ross
04:50
it is
different by region as a whole is coke classic red Coke is is by far but you
know in the Spring Hill area is caffeine free coke in Miami it's Coke Zero in
Daytona it might be Cherry Coke. So it really, it really, it's always based
Coke is always our most popular best selling. But there's variance across the
state based on demographics based on psychographics. based on you know, are you
in the middle of the state are you went by the beach so it's it's, it's always
cold. But there's some nuances to
Rosanna Catalano 05:25
Coca
Cola so good with a glass of ice, pizza.
Alysia Ross
05:30
That's
part of it too, right? That's, that's something that we're working on too.
That's fairly intuitive what you said and I think everyone's got a memory of,
or a feeling of I have to have a coke with pizza, or I have to have for me
growing up. It was my mom would make dinner a special dinner every Saturday night.
And I had to have a Coke with it. I had to it was part of it to this day, all
these years later, not many that many years. But these leaders later, I have to
have a coke when I eat, you know, tuna fish on a bagel? just is what it is.
Rosanna Catalano 06:03
Exactly.
So now that we've talked about your current role, let's go back to the
beginning of your story and tell me where you grew up and where you went to
college.
Alysia Ross
06:11
So I
grew up. I'm from New York, and I grew up on Long Island, and born in Queens
and moved to Long Island when I was growing up and live there my whole life and
what I should say, they live there for as I grew up, went to college in upstate
New York at SUNY at a state university in Oneonta, a very small town, one main
street, and two colleges, believe it or not, so you can imagine the kinds of
stores that were on that street were very much targeted to the college set. So
spent four years in upstate New York, came back and my first job out of school
was working for the Bronx Zoo. It was my dream job, I've done an internship.
And I basically stalked the folks at the zoo until they had an open, they had
an opening, I was the one that that was lucky enough to get the job. And I was
there for about six years. I've always been in marketing my whole career, about
27 years now. And different kinds of marketing on nonprofit when I was at the
zoo on the client side on the agency side is so for me, where I've really
focused the last probably 1520 years is on shopper marketing. And it's all
about that nuance about again, the different experiences, the different
motivations, and different behaviors. You know, if I think of myself when I go
to Publix, I'm in one mindset when I'm in target. And I'd be in a completely different
mindset open to different kinds of experiences, different kinds of offers, and
different kinds of products versus when I'm just going grocery shopping and you
know, looking to get in and out as fast as possible. So it's that that's always
been so fascinating to me, and just how one person can have all these different
parts of themselves and shop differently and be open to different messaging,
depending on where they are and who they're with time of day. And there's so
many different factors
07:57
that
goes into
Rosanna Catalano 07:58
it. I
haven't thought of that. But you're right. I am a I have a different shopping
list when I am going to my grocery store, Publix. I have a different shopping
list when I'm going to the pharmacy, different shopping list when I'm headed to
target. Absolutely, you're correct. Well, let's take a quick commercial break
and we come back I want to talk to you a little more about your early career.
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to the Florida Ville on this episode we're speaking to Alicia Ross, the
director of insights and planning for coop Florida. Now, before the break, we
talked about your first job being at the Bronx Zoo. What do you consider a
valuable lesson you learned at that job?
Alysia Ross
09:38
You
know, there was so so many. I think one of them for me was just learning how to
work with all different kinds of people. I grew up, you know, growing up on
Long Island growing going to a state school in New York. I've met a lot of the
same kind of people and working in the Bronx was a very interesting experience
for me because I learned about the value of teams and the value of Diversity,
and how so many, I think the thing that I've been most takeaways have so many
different kinds of people, meaning animal keepers, scientists, veterinarians,
janitorial staff, marketing, guest relations, think about how many different
kinds of jobs there are in an organization really work together to achieve a
common goal, whether that's, you know, helping, helping an animal or
publicizing an event, just the the, the power of that communication and
collaboration, I think is probably the lesson that after six years, especially
so early in my 20s, having a job like that was something that that that I
learned there that I took with me for the rest of the rest of my career.
Rosanna Catalano 10:47
So you
talked about how you work in various marketing positions, and take us with you
a little bit after the Brock zoo. Where did you work? And what were some of the
significant positions you held, and if you can share with our audience, how you
ended up in those organizations and the type of work that you did?
Alysia Ross
11:06
Sure,
you know, leaving the zoo and I did was a decision I regret, because I was in
my 20s. And I lived in a tiny little studio apartment, and I wanted more. And
being there for six years as someone who started when they were 22 years old, I
was always the youngest, I was always the most the person with the least
experience, but with the most passion. And I had so much passion for the work
that we did. And just being in that environment. My office was across from the
sea lion pool. You know, it's you know where that is, right. You're, you know,
you've been there too. So I went from there and I decided it was time to go, I
needed to, to, I wanted my career to flourish. I wanted to move up, I wanted to
make more money. And I left there to work in an office park in Mahwah, New
Jersey. And the difference was dramatic. Because while
11:59
the work
Alysia Ross
12:00
was
completely different, it was you know, working for a nonprofit and working for
a company that was very much for profit that worked with giant companies like
like m&m, Mars, and, and Hewlett Packard at the time of big, big, big
clients. I was an assistant account executive. And I started at the very, very
bottom, and but learned invaluable lessons about the agency world, but I never
ever would have learned if I stayed on the client on the nonprofit side. So
while I'll always To this day, miss the zoo and miss the environment that I was
in there, I will forever be grateful for the experience that I had, and and
have gotten to now at Coke, Florida, and I know I skipped about 20 years ago,
I'll go back. But now I'm getting to have those experiences again, and working
with, you know, the Zoos and Aquariums here and Disney here.
Alysia Ross
12:50
So it
all kind of comes full circle. But I was on the agency side there, I stayed on
the agency side for the next about seven or eight years at two different
agencies just again, focused on national promotions. And you know, at a very
junior level, it was just all great learning, getting exposure to the creative
side of the business, the production side, the financial side of the business,
just I was one of those people that wanted to touch and feel everything. So
while I stayed on the account side, I I definitely got to dabble in a lot of
different projects that cross that went across the agencies. And from there I
was unfortunately laid off. It was 1999. And you remember troublesome times in
our country and 99 and I was laid off. And I just started applying for pretty
much anything in the New York area that that looked appropriate for me. And I
saw a role at PepsiCo that was focused on Travel and Leisure, and all the kinds
of accounts that I loved from Zoos and Aquariums to casinos and hotels and
theme parks. And it was a role in the Food Service Group. And it was customer
marketing. And I got the job and stayed in PepsiCo foodservice for 10 years in
a variety of roles from new business to customer management, but always stated
food service and my gosh, I learned so much not just about the beverage
industry. But it was the first time I was on the client side in a major
corporate environment for a global, you know, a global company like PepsiCo.
And during that time, it wasn't just about working on beverages it was when
they had that whole power of one idea and one account would work across all
different facets of the business, from chips, to oatmeal to juices. And it was
an incredible experience. And it's really where I fell in love with data. And
and not not so much numbers, but data and insights. Because back in the early
2000s we were cutting and cutting our own data and pulling our own data where
there was not an insights group to work with where there are there is now
obviously so I spent 10 years there was unfortunately laid off from there and
still bitter about that. And from there went to the back to the agency side,
where I came in in a much more senior position and was a group director across
lots of different businesses. And bringing my insights knowledge that I have
gleaned from PepsiCo was really able to add a depth set, perhaps what we hadn't
had before, on the agency side of that agency. So I was there for six years and
approached to become the lead the director of shopper marketing for Dannon
yogurt. Super excited about that this was the job that I had wanted to be the
lead of North American shopper marketing group on the client side for a company
goal and again, another global company like Denon, and unfortunately, shortly
thereafter, I, the company merged with a company called White wave out in
Colorado. And unfortunately, after two years, my whole team was completely
wiped out, laid off again, and was just devastated. absolutely devastated.
Because this was at the time such a dream job. And I would never have left the
of course, hindsight is 2020. Right. But the whole one door closes. The other
opens idea, of course came to be and I was I was laid off and it months had
gone by and I had interviews, but nothing gets stuck. And I remember saying to
my children, I think we have to look outside of New York, I think we have to
figure out if there's anything for us outside in my outside of this new york
metro area. We were living in Connecticut at the time my kids were born there.
I lived there for about 20 over 20 years. But I needed to open my I knew that I
needed to open my eyes and see what else was out there. And when I kind of had that
mindset that I was going to be open to experiences outside of the where I lived
my whole life. That week, co Florida found me on LinkedIn, and invited me to
interview for this role. And I kind of said, Oh, I know all New Yorkers are
supposed to end up in Florida. But this is not where I had seen my life going
at the time. So you know, we kind of said, Oh, sure, be fun. We could go to
Disney all the time. We could go to the beach all the time.
17:19
Sure,
sure.
Alysia Ross
17:20
I never
thought I would get it. But I got it. And I remember saying to my kids, when I
was getting when I was getting close, I mean, I they'd already brought me down
for the interviews. They were giving me advice on where to look for houses. And
I remember saying to my kids who were 13 and 15 at the time, I think this is
kind of kind of going to happen. And then it became real. Before it was kind of
fun. And sure we could go play at the beach. And all of a sudden we were
leaving, and leaving everything they had known my my family who was based
there, their dad who was based there, and and we left and I got the job, I
found out that I had gotten the job Christmas Eve day. And tomorrow will be two
years that we left. So we had exactly four weeks to pack up our whole lives.
And get it all into boxes find a place to live get the kids in school, and my
son and I and two dogs and two cats drove to Florida, over three days. And my
daughter followed shortly thereafter, she she had to finish up some things at
her school and then she came down.
Rosanna Catalano 18:32
And here
we are. Amazing. We're glad you're here.
Alysia Ross
18:38
Thank
you. Sunshine State. Yes, thank you.
Rosanna Catalano 18:41
Everyone
has had to make some changes during this pandemic. What are some obstacles and
solutions you and your team have tackled during COVID?
Alysia Ross
18:50
Quite a
shift in mindset. So being that the Coca Cola company in Atlanta, really, as I
mentioned before, was responsible for more brand awareness. And I won't say
more sophisticated marketing, but their marketing was at a much higher level on
TV, digital, etc. The bottle or marketing really lived. At least our marketing
at Coke, Florida lived in the store. And only in the store point of sale paper,
paper coupons, static clings and that was the only kind of marketing that coke
Florida did. Now, one of the reasons they brought me on board was because they
knew there was more right? We knew that they knew that the digital space was
exploding. They knew that there were other ways to talk to shoppers, but that
was one of my objectives coming in. Well, this pandemic obviously was kind of
the kick that we needed to extend our messaging outside of the store because
nobody was going to the store. And while we spent the majority of all of our
marketing dollars on POS we had to shift and spend it So that we could talk to
shoppers when they were home. And so we dramatically switched our marketing and
adjusted our marketing plan to embrace digital marketing.
20:11
We had
Alysia Ross 20:12
a lot,
so much of what we did in Florida was experiential. We had, you may have seen
the coat caravan that traveled around for the holidays with our polar bears and
Santa and wonder we created this wonderful experience all over the state.
Clearly, we couldn't do that. We had a summer tour, we had a fall tour with
that toward colleges. So all of that face to face. experiential work sucked. So
we had to figure out well, how can we still sample? Well, of course, this
digital sampling, how can we, you know, we started embracing targeted
marketing. Now you may say, this is not a new idea. Everybody's been doing this
for many, many years. We weren't, we were not right or wrong, just weren't.
Everything that we were doing, like I said, was based in the store. So So the
biggest adjustment, I want to say adjustment, the progress that we've made in
the last year, to become much more sophisticated marketers, we've brought on a
variety of third party partners that have helped us and I'm not even just
talking about agency, but more so vendors who know the space a heck of a lot
better than we did, who really helped us and guided us to, to create the right
kind of messaging to reach the right shopper at the right time with the right
message to have it really make a difference.
Rosanna Catalano 21:32
Incredible.
I did not realize that with the digital space. Yeah, yeah. When you aren't
working, which it sounds like there's you focus and work a lot aren't working,
what do you do in your spare time.
Alysia Ross
21:47
I know
that my kids are older, I have a 15 year old and a 17 year old. Shockingly,
they don't want to hang out with me a lot as often as they used to. So I spend
a ton of time on my garden. And I'm I'm actually going this year for my it's
kind of a soft degree in landscape architecture. Because it's what I love, I
love to be outside, back living in the northeast, I'd love to garden barefoot,
I've learned that you don't do that here because of the critters in the soil.
learn that the hard way, fire ants, not fun. But you know, for me, like I said,
gardening the same way for so long. It's been an incredible challenge to learn
how to garden in Florida. So that's what I do. I spend a lot of time at the
beach, I've made some new friends. And and I just I just love being outside the
fact that you could be outside here all year long, you know, we've just had a
cold snap and wasn't cold to me. It felt great. Even though I saw plenty of
people walking around with mittens on and it's it's feels 1650s 60s and 50s is
still warm to me in the winter. So I just love being outside and I and I love
my plants, and I love my pets, and most of the time, and I cherish the time
that my kids want to do want to spend with me. and spending time just really
spending time all together.
Rosanna Catalano 23:11
Now
you've spent a large part of your career working in marketing, what advice do
you have for business owners trying to market their business?
Alysia Ross
23:21
I think
the best advice I could give would be to focus on who you're trying to reach,
and what you want them to do. Because the biggest mistake I think marketers,
especially small business marketers make is putting out their message
everywhere, to anyone who will listen.
23:39
But
there's a lot
Alysia Ross
23:40
of waste
there. Because not everybody is interested in your business or what you sell or
the way that you sell it. If you have a niche product. Think about who it is
that you're trying to market to and figure out ways to get to them. What do you
what else do they enjoy doing? What else are they How are they enjoying your
product? Where are they and that's where you need to be it you need to be where
the shopper is, and whether that's sampling your products or whether it's
simply advertising to them in a way that makes sense through whether it's
targeted digital or whether it's and there's there's so many whether it's
social, there's so many different ways to and inexpensive ways surprisingly,
then you can speak directly to your shoppers and not waste the market the
monies that you have on a message that will resonate.
Rosanna Catalano 24:30
What are
some of the upcoming projects you are focused on at Coke, Florida.
Alysia Ross
24:35
Right
now the two biggest projects we have that I'm that I'm kind of obsessed with.
One is figuring out how to commercialize the whole portfolio and what I mean by
that is and you said it earlier you know is Coke is the number one brand. But
we have so many other brands and so many other brands that do different things.
For example, we have functional beverages that are with our partners Body
Armor. And they make you know, there's a coconut based sport drink that they
have that really rivals Gatorade is much healthier than Gatorade, but it's very
quiet brand and they're just starting to make their way. We have products like,
25:12
like
Aha,
Alysia Ross
25:15
as I
enjoy, which is a new brand on the market, which is, which is, you know, a
sparkling seltzer water, that's with 0% juice, but with other natural flavors.
I'm not trying to do a commercial here. But what I'm saying is there's so many
different kinds of products that we have. It's not just about coke. And I
think, you know, when we come up against people who, you know, talk about Cogan
in negative way, and that from a health and wellness perspective, we have just
as many brands, on our still side still meaning no models that are healthy, and
that are good for you. And, and can be enjoyed in a variety of occasions. And
so I think, you know, figuring out ways to leverage the whole portfolio again,
to the right shoppers at the right time, we've we've worked on a segmentation
strategy for Florida. And we know that like we said before, what's going to
resonate in Spring Hill will not resonate in Jacksonville, nor in Miami, nor in
Tampa. So we're really what we're what I'm super focused on right now is making
sure that we have the right brands in the right stores in the right package
sizes to accommodate people and what they need. So if you live in an urban
environment,
26:26
chances
Alysia Ross
26:26
are you
don't want a 24 pack of cans, there's no place to put them. And you certainly
don't want to carry them home, maybe if you're on you know, using public
transportation. So all those little nuances go into play. And the other part
that I'm working on is we have if you think about the year and the different
occasions of the year, we call them pillars, right, whether that's holiday or
back to school or summertime, so right now we're planning for summer, and we are
figuring out our strategy, we're going to pay a lot of pay a lot of attention
to our military this summer, you know Florida has is the third has the third
largest population of military personnel, whether that's active duty or
veterans and military families in the country, third largest population. So we
need to honor them and we need to make sure that they know that they're
appreciated and know that their service is a part of everyday life here
27:23
in
Florida.
Alysia Ross
27:24
So we're
focusing there we're Of course focusing on grilling, we're focusing on how that
looks to our Hispanic shoppers and and also being very involved in
multicultural marketing knowing that, especially in Florida, one size does not
fit all, our Hispanic population is beautifully diverse, Cuban and Puerto Rican
and Venezuelan I mean, we are we've got everybody here. And so you know,
showing while Coca Cola North America, we might create a Hispanic focus program
that has tacos on the point of sale. Not going to work in Florida, because our
population is not primarily Mexican. And not that only Mexicans eat tacos, but
you know what I'm saying we need to make sure that we've got again the right
the right signage, the right brands in the right place for the right shoppers.
So those are the two biggest projects that I'm kind of obsessed with right now.
Rosanna Catalano 28:21
Well,
we'd like to end our show with a little fun by asking all our guests the same
seven questions. Okay, what would people be surprised to know about you
Alysia Ross
28:30
said I
majored in theater I'm a big theater nerd and I up until I moved out in
Connecticut I was very involved in community theater growing up I was always
involved in I tried Broadway didn't didn't work which is why I'm in marketing I
guess. But yeah, I have a used to be quite a dancer and singer and, and be very
involved in the theater.
Rosanna Catalano 28:52
You
know, you can have your debut here right now. When you have guests in town,
where is your favorite place to take them
Alysia Ross
29:03
to
places of course Disney World because now I kind of know my way around and can
be a bit of a tour guide. But the other place is a little town in Clearwater
called Pass-a-grille. And I just love his love the vibe there. I love the
restaurants and the beach and the shell collecting and there's a dog beach. So
I just I got introduced to it when I first moved here and I just love going
back to that area.
Rosanna Catalano 29:28
It's a
great place. So what is the name of a book you recently read that you could not
put down or the name of a show you enjoy binge watching?
29:37
Okay,
I'll go for the show.
Alysia Ross
29:39
I am a
huge Outlander fan. And I've read all the books and I bought all the chat
groups and and all the Facebook groups. So I can watch the Outlander series
over and over again read the books over and over again. I also on the advice of
one of these groups watched bridgerton I binge that one it's not nearly as good
as Outlander. But it was it'll do while outlanders is the night we were waiting
for the next season. From a books perspective, you know, it's funny, I was an
avid audiobook listener because I had a very long commute and always have had a
very long commute. Now I'm not commuting, so I miss my audiobooks. But the last
audio book that I read was where the crawdads sing, and boy I could not put
that down and listen to it quite a few times. I like historical fiction and
which is why I like Outlander but that's those those the shows and of course,
if I may say Shitt's Creek, it also one of my I just, I just discovered that
show and totally binge watch all the seasons. So that was another good one.
Rosanna Catalano 30:44
I loved
Outlander. And I've enjoyed Shitt's Creek so much so great shows now, close family
and friends, what are you best known for?
Alysia Ross
30:57
Think
I'm best known for its good and bad at being incredibly honest and
straightforward. As my 15 year old daughter has said, you don't have to be so
honest all the time. So it's not that I don't have a filter. I just think that
if you're asking me for my opinion, I'm going to give it to you. If you wanted
me to lie, I tell me you want me to go by. But I think I think that being being
pretty straightforward kind of girl is probably what I'm best known for and
being I would like to think I'm generous, and kind. But that's it. And I think
my I'm a very sarcastic sense of humor growing up in New York probably embedded
that in me, but I think I like to I like to make people laugh. I like to make
people happy. And and I think those are some of the ways I try to do that.
Maybe not by being honest. But
Rosanna Catalano 31:45
if you
have a nickname Who gave it to you,
Alysia Ross
31:50
my best
friend from college called me Lyly Bean just is the best.
Rosanna Catalano 31:56
We won't
ask about that. If you knew you could not fail, what would you attempt?
Alysia Ross
32:04
If I
knew I could not fail, I would go back to theater. And I would attempt to Well,
I was going to say be the dancer and I am a little past that now. I realize in
my head, I still can rock all those great 80s moves, but not really in real
life anymore. So but I think I would get involved in the theater, probably
marketing, because that's what I know. But that's that's what I would want to
be involved in the theater industry again.
Rosanna Catalano 32:35
What are
the top three things you love about living in Florida?
Alysia Ross
32:41
The top
three things I love about living in Florida is that I can grow vegetables all year
round, that I could and will again go to Disney whenever I want. And that the
beach is never far away. Whether it's our beaches, whether it's the bay,
whether it's the goal for I want to go across the state to the ocean. That's
something I couldn't you know, in Connecticut in New York, yes, the beach was
there, but not like the Gulf, the Gulf, the Gulf is really just take takes my
breath away sometimes.
Rosanna Catalano 33:14
It's
really beautiful. I grew up on the east coast of Florida. And now as I'm older,
you know, it's closer the Gulf side, and it really just surprised me. Yeah,
Alysia Ross
33:30
it's
beautiful. And, um, and you can swim in it and it's not ice cold. So that's
what I love about the goal.
Rosanna Catalano 33:40
Well,
this has been an absolute pleasure speaking with you today and I appreciate
your time.
33:45
Thank
you. Thank you for having me. It's great fun.
Rosanna Catalano 33:49
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