Juana Watkins, Vice President of Law & Policy and General Counsel, Florida Realtors
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Rosanna Catalano
0:08
This is the Floridaville.
Get to know the people behind the Florida names you know. I'm your host
Rosanna Catalano. On this episode we get to know Juana Watkins, the Vice
President of Law and Policy and General Counsel to the Florida realtors.
She tells us about her humble beginnings from a family of sharecroppers to
becoming a leader within the largest trade association in the sunshine state.
She also shares with us her struggles and victories as a mother of two amazing
children, one of whom has autism. We are recording remotely today rather than
in our podcast recording studio. I'm in my home in Tallahassee and our guest
today is Juana Watkins, who is speaking to us from her office in Orlando,
Florida. Welcome to the show.
Juana Watkins
1:00
Thank you so much for having me today.
Rosanna Catalano
1:03
You work for the Florida realtors, which is one of the
largest and oldest trade organizations in Florida. Tell us what your
organization does.
Juana Watkins
1:12
So, Florida realtors is the voice of real estate for the
state of Florida. provide support to 51 local Association of Realtors and
195,000 realtor members here in the state of Florida. We are here to advocate
for and protect private property rights in the state of Florida and to provide
the products services and tools necessary for our members to be successful
within the real estate industry.
Rosanna Catalano
1:46
How many members do you all have?
Juana Watkins
1:49
We have 195,000 members we are the largest trade association
in the state of Florida.
Rosanna Catalano
1:56
Wow, I did not know that. Yes, sir. What is your role with
the Florida realtors?
Juana Watkins
2:02
So I have the honor of serving as the vice president of law
and policy and General Counsel for Florida realtors. And in that role, I
oversee a team of 14 attorneys and a paralegal. We provide all of the general
legal services for the association and our 135 employees. We have an office
here in Orlando, that is our headquarters, as well as an office in Tallahassee
that houses our public policy team. So the organization is very large and the
legal needs are huge, but our primary service is a Legal Hotline that provides
support to our members we answer somewhere in the neighborhood of 74,000 phone
calls and emails every year from members to educate them on various Legal
topics associated with real estate transactions and real estate law in Florida.
So that's our major service. We also do somewhere in the neighborhood of 60
legal updates throughout the state and our local Association and various
offices where we educate the members on hot topics related to real estate law
here in the state. We provide support to Florida realtors charities, there are
for charities associated with Florida realtors. We provide staff counsel to
those charities. We write content for our members for our Florida realtors
website and our award winning Florida realtors magazine. So we are very busy in
the law and policy section over at Florida realtors.
Rosanna Catalano
3:45
What are some of the common questions that you receive from
your members?
Juana Watkins
3:49
So in that 74,000 phone calls and emails a year I'm sure you
can imagine the topics are very diverse and wide ranging. A lot of the
questions that we receive are about the newsletter we plublish for the members
to use. So we have a forms library called form simplicity that members can use
to facilitate real estate transactions. We have two families of contracts the
Florida realtors, Florida Bar contract that we've published in coordination
with the Florida Bar. And we also have the contract for sale and purchase that
we publish for realtor members specifically. So most of the questions that we
receive would be related to some aspect of those forms the financing section
because the buyer has run into financing difficulties, maybe it's something
dealing with permitting or title problems or something of that nature during
the course of the transaction. That's I think the majority of the questions
that we receive, but sometimes they are really unique and challenging aspects
of the transaction like disclosure issues unique to that other properties
flooding, let's say that a member may have questions about sometimes licensing
and regulatory issues that are not related to the transaction but to the member
license. So we receive a variety of questions from our members and it's our
pleasure to help navigate those waters with them.
Rosanna Catalano
5:22
I had a good friend of mine that was a real real estate
litigation attorney in South Florida and she said it always came down to
mirrors and chandeliers.
Juana Watkins
5:33
Fixtures. Absolutely. That's a very popular question. With
respect to the contract. Yes.
Rosanna Catalano
5:42
So COVID-19 has changed our economy quite drastically in the
last couple of months. How has the real estate market been affected by it?
Juana Watkins
5:51
So, you know, one of the best parts of my job is I get to
work alongside with an incredible leadership team here at Florida Realtors,
whether it's our elected leadership, our amazing CEO Margy Grant, or the
incredible vice presidents or directors on the senior management team here at
the Florida realtors, our staff, and we have a fantastic chief economist and
research department and they are well abroad, they stay well abreast of all of
the trends with respect to the housing market here in Florida. And so I
wouldn't dare quote statistics because Brad would probably kill me, because I'd
get it all wrong, but I will tell you just from a 20,000 kind of foot level,
it's not as bad as we initially thought. Alright, so initially, there was a lot
of fear and uncertainty with respect to the transactions, people wanting to cancel
transactions, many people actually canceling transactions. And so we saw these
steep declines, you know, 20 to 30% kind of numbers. Without getting into
really the specifics of the statistics, but I will say that there is a hope and
a belief that the turnaround, the recovery for the real estate industry will be
a lot shorter than for many of the industries heavily impacted by cobit. And I
can tell you from the hotline, because our calls are really great indicators of
the real time anecdotal kind of what's happening in the market, we have members
who will call and say, listen, yesterday I was sitting with my buyer and this
question came up. So whereas researches looking at the statistical data over a
period of time that has passed and alabs our calls are telling us what's
happening like now, you know, sometimes they are literally meeting with the
science now. So, in the weeks initially following COVID, we saw a lot of folks
calling because transactions were falling apart. And the last three weeks or
so, we have lots of members calling, and they're saying, I am writing an offer,
and my buyer wants to do the following. You know, how do I accomplish that? So
many of the calls that we're getting now are dealing with new transactions
where they're bringing together buyers and so they are saying I'm listing a
property and the seller has a question about I think what we are seeing on the
hotline and what we are hearing from members is that customers are their buyers
are ready to buy and sellers are ready to sell.
Rosanna Catalano
8:47
I did not know that about the housing market right now.
That's great. Mm hmm.
Juana Watkins
8:51
Yeah, there's a there's a lot of cautious optimism but
optimism all the same.
Rosanna Catalano
8:57
What are you hearing from members with regards to real
estate transactions impacted by the Corona virus. Is there anything new or
different in those transactions?
Juana Watkins
9:09
Well, um, there were a few things that prevented the
transactions from being business issues. I'll say that, you know, we had the
fear factor, which I've already kind of mentioned, where folks just did not
know kind of what to do next. And so you had to deal with that, right? Fear is
a real, it's real to the buyer and the seller who don't really know how
governmental restrictions and travel restrictions and all of these things would
impact the transaction. So that was a reality. From our members perspective,
though, they had some practical considerations and some concerns that we had to
help them navigate. The first is access to the properties. You know, we are an
industry accustomed to taking prospects to home into homes. Whether it's for
individual showings or houses, or whatever the case may be. And so, this
lockdown approach this isolation approach made it very difficult to do basic
aspects of the real estate transaction like show the property to a potential
buyer or tenant, inspect the property for an inspection period under a
transaction, appraise the property for financing. So, one of the things we had
to really think about and come up with creative solutions to was access to
property. Another consideration was the actual performance of the contractual
obligations of the parties you know, especially early on when we started to see
restrictions restrictions, by governments restrictions by businesses
restrictions by a for travel, you know, where you have a New York fire, who
needs to travel to Florida to inspect the property and They can't, how does
that impact their contractual obligations to perform and so we ended up needing
to kind of develop tools to help the members assist their customers to avoid
defaults and to keep the transactions together. So things like attendance to
contract to help with some of these contractual formance obligations, the
timing of it all, whether it's granting additional time or something to that
effect. So we, we developed some tools for our members to use as a part of the
contract to help they're in another kind of interesting twist that we started
to see very early on, was with respect to lending, right. So you had buyers who
had either delays in the lending process or lenders who stopped underwriting
certain types of loans that the buyer had even been approved for and just
needed, funded by closing that a lender suddenly decided for their own business
purposes they wouldn't fun. So, you know, thinking through those practical
consequences of this pandemic and trying to help the members navigate those
transactions, those were challenges but that's what we do we want to we say
that our members success is our business and helping them to successfully this
transaction to closing for the buyer and seller is is what we pride ourselves
in doing.
Rosanna Catalano
12:32
You've been an attorney for more than 20 years now. Has your
focus always been real estate?
Juana Watkins
12:39
Not at all. Um, listen, I wanted to be the next Johnnie
Cochran. I left law school determined to be a criminal defense attorney. I had
done what we call an externship in law school as a Certified Legal intern at
the public defender's office in Pensacola. And I got a taste for trial work and
that is what I wanted to do. So I left Tallahassee in 1998 December of 98. I
moved down to Central Florida to work at the orange and Osceola County Public
Defender's Office. I loved it. I loved the drama of Trial work, I loved
criminal law. But the public defender's office is a tough gig. It is hard work.
The caseload was unbelievable. I think I started with a whopping $22,000 a year
as a salary with student loans, right. So it was definitely a labor of love. I
did that for two years. And I needed to make a little money. So a friend of
mine that I worked with there, the peace office suggested that I go work at a
state agency here in Orlando, the division of real estate had never heard of
it. didn't know anything about state government other than what I knew from
Tallahassee had not planned on it at all. And so I went there with like a two
three year plan in mind, I thought, I'll go there. Probably had a kid. I got married
in year 2000. Probably have a kid, buy a house, and go back to practicing
criminal law on my own hang the shingle. And within two years, I was Chief
Attorney for the agency. And a year after that, I was acting director for the
agency and I kind of got my first real taste of state government leadership. I
found what was for me at that time, my calling and that's what I wanted to do.
Rosanna Catalano
14:48
From there, where did you end up working?
Juana Watkins
14:51
Well, I said it was my calling and it was except you know,
state government work can be even more trying that. The public defender's
office and so Wow, it was it was exciting. It was exciting. So I stayed at the
agency until 2005. And if I'm honest, I was just completely exhausted. I love
my role as Chief Attorney because that's what I they brought in a director
finally, and I went back to being Chief Attorney and it was a great place and I
love the people and I love the work. I was working with literal estate
Commission and the Florida real estate appraisal portals. fantastic work. But I
was exhausted by state government. So I knew several of the attorneys from my
job had gone to work at this place call at that time, Florida Association of
Realtors. So I thought, let me call over there to see what they have open.
Maybe I'll go there. See if I like it. I made a phone call turned out someone
had just quit a couple of days ago from the law and policy section of the
Florida Realtors. I left the state and came over here to Florida Realtors to
work on that hotline that I now supervise. And I spent three amazing years here
with this management team loved it. And it was just a fantastic place to be
great boss, great coworkers. But I knew that I left the state of Brooklyn, I
felt that that's where I belonged at that stage in my life, and that I had not
well and truly left it all on the field. Say government is a calling it is a
service. It really is public service. And I felt like I was called to do it. I
just felt like I couldn't keep doing it when I was in it. So I needed to go
back and I needed To finish what I felt like I started when I was there. So the
Deputy Director, job opened, and I went back to the division of real estate and
I stayed there from 2008 to 2017.
Rosanna Catalano
17:18
And then you came to the Florida realtors where you are now.
Juana Watkins
17:21
I did I so, so I was deputy director for four years and I
became director so I was really really excited and honored to be appointed
director right, because, you know, I'm not like this politically savvy person,
but I work really hard for the agency. So I was really thankful for the
opportunity to serve as director for those six and a half years. And, and I
honestly felt like I left it all on the field director, Director of any agency
for six and a half years. That's a long time and so it was a great run, but I
was looking for something more fulfilling I needed to grow personally.
rationally and I didn't feel like I was growing like I felt like I was on
autopilot. and professional development and growth is really important to me.
And so I just felt like I needed something new. I loved the state agency. I
wasn't really sure what I was going to do next, right. I was really thankful
that this door was open. But at first you're kind of like this just looks weird
on the resume division of real estate, Florida Realtors, Division of Real
Estate, Florida Realtors, like that just looks crazy by anybody's standards.
But it was the door was open. And so I was thankful for it. And I loved it here
the first time again, amazing people wonderful opportunities. So at the end of
the day, I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. And my boss, my boss now, who was
General Counsel at the time called and said she needed someone to do a six
month contract, because her director of executive offices was going on leave
and So I said, Sure, I'll do a six month contract and that six month contract
turned into a six month contract. And then she got promoted to CEO and I got
promoted to general counsel and it is it is the honor of a lifetime. Great
story.
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Rosanna Catalano
19:45
So we've gone over your professional life. Tell us about
your family.
Juana Watkins
19:50
I come from one of those big crazy Southern families. My
parents are both from rural Alabama and they are, I come from really, really
humble beginnings. Okay. I am the American Dream personified. I have to tell
you so you know, these are interesting times we live in and I will just say
that my mother and father, both, they grew up in Wilcox County, Alabama,
really, really small town. I love it there because of the incredible sense of
community. But it is not a booming Metropolis and there's not a lot of
commercial development and opportunity in the area. And so, like many young
black kids growing up in the 40s and 50s, in rural Alabama, they left school
very early on, and their business was sharecropping and picking cotton. So I am
literally one generation away from the cotton fields of rural Alabama. So, as
they became adults, they desired more to life. Obviously they both ended up in
Pensacola, which is not a couple hours away from Wilcox County. And they both
have always had an amazing, amazing workout all my life, they've worked
multiple jobs, they've always had this incredible dignity and work,
determination to always improve. I make tomorrow better than yesterday for
themselves and for their children. And so their marriage ended when I was three
years old, which is fine because my mom and dad and subsequently my step mom
have always set the example for how you set aside any water under the bridge as
adults and raise your children cooperatively. And so I have been on the
receiving end of three amazing parents who've decided to raise me and love me
in cooperatively, so, I am the youngest of five, and the baby of the family,
not just the youngest, but the baby that has meaning. We are a close knit
family, lots of nieces and nephews, an incredible group of people, older sisters
and ministry, oldest brothers in construction, middle sisters, a cook, the
younger youngest brother who's older than me, obviously, as a police officer,
first black Lieutenant and in his department's history. I'm the attorney. So we
have done very well but it's because we have amazing parents who stood behind
us and always want it better for us and gave us that opportunity never allowed
us to accept mediocrity and always encouraged Just to believe in the
possibilities of tomorrow and so that's me grew up in Pensacola went to school
undergrad at Florida a&m University has seven heels up there though
rattlers. School of Business and Industry grad and then went to college went to
law school at Florida State. Go Noles Left Tallahassee in '98 moved down to
Orlando. Got married to one of my good friends from high school. We stayed
married for 15 years. Unfortunately, the marriage ended but the friendship did
not. So we are raising our children cooperatively. Speaking of children, I have
an amazing 17 year old daughter beautiful brains. Future. marine biologists
slash computer scientists kind of like Jacques Cousteau meets Bill Gates, I
guess I don't know. Maybe she'll develop some specialized microchips for the
dolphin. I don't know.
Rosanna Catalano
24:07
That's wonderful. That's wonderful. Do you have any other
children?
Juana Watkins
24:11
I do. I do. So in addition to my daughter, who is my also my
drummer, she's very musically inclined. I have a son who is 13 years old. He is
phenomenal. Great kid. He is. He loves electronics. He is my soccer player. He
loves playing soccer with his friends. And Caleb is my special baby. He has been diagnosed with autism. For the
last 10 years now, autism and epilepsy actually, but fortunately that epilepsy
is fairly dormant, but his Autism is not but you know, he's an amazing child
with a courage and determination that makes me love him all. The more That's
very sweet.
Rosanna Catalano
25:01
When did you realize that something was going on with Caleb?
Juana Watkins
25:06
Well, you know, I knew there was something different when he
was about 18 months old. He just he hit all his milestones, the way that you
know, you read in the books, they're supposed to do certain things that three
months, six months, he did all of those things, but about 18 months, so I
started to see a difference. And he had had his first seizure by then. So I was
told that it's probably because of the seizure, but they're probably febrile
seizures, he'll be fine. It'll just take a little extra time but he'll hit all
his milestones, he'll be fine, but he wasn't making eye contact. And so at
night, I would overcompensate and I would sink to them and kind of stare in his
eyes to kind of force the issue of eye contact and he was receptive. It just
wasn't naturally occurring the way it would with some I noticed He would play
alongside other children, but he wouldn't play with other children. So when the
other kids are pushing their cars and to each other, he wanted to push the car,
but he wanted to push the car alongside them, but not with them. And so you
just start to notice these things. It's just a little different. And then they
lined stuff up just carefully, just so in it. So I just started to notice these
things. And I was told again, probably the seizures is probably fine, but he
was about 18 months old when I noticed and then he was too when I finally
raised the issue at his two year old, well child visit with his pediatrician.
Rosanna Catalano
26:47
What advice would you give to other parents that might be
noticing something in the development of their child?
Juana Watkins
26:55
Don't ignore the early warning signs. No parent ever wants
to embrace the idea that something is different with their child. Right? But
you cannot ignore early signs. It doesn't mean there's autism at it, you know,
worst case scenario, you figure if something is off or something is different,
like, initially, we thought it was speech. And so he went to speech therapy
that only helped him in the long term. The speech therapy didn't resolve the
issue, but it certainly helped the issue, right. So don't ignore the warning
signs and advocate for your child. So many times people said to me when I would
say yeah, but my daughter was able to at this age and people dismiss me and
said, you know, boys and girls are just different. Well, yes, boys and girls
are different. But I had to become a fierce advocate for my son and I had to
make sure that people heard me because there's an attitude of every time is
different, and that is true. Every child is different. But we know our
children. And so I would just say, don't ignore the signs because early testing
is key. You know, when Caleb started this journey, they were, you know, the
statistics from Autism Speaks was that one in 88 kids would be diagnosed with
autism. Now, they say one in 54 kids in 10 years, we've seen that type of
prevalence in autism. And so I just encourage you don't, don't ignore it. If
you believe your child may have something different about them, whether it's
autism or whatever it is advocate protesting and figure out what it is so that
you can address it.
Rosanna Catalano
28:45
What resources would you recommend to other parents of
autistic children that helped you on your journey as a mom?
Juana Watkins
28:53
So for me, I immediately connected with Autism Speaks, they
are an amazing organization. They have cracked the code, they understand what
to do. I felt like when I got the diagnosis, even though I already knew deep
down, just hearing it, it was like a Mack truck hitting me. You're not prepared
for it. And so you have this period where you don't know what to do. But Autism
Speaks hat. They have an incredibly robust resource guide to help you know what
to do step by step by step. So they have this toolkit, you know what to do in
the first 100 days to literally walk you through what to do. And so that became
my playbook preteen Caleb, helping me understand how to assemble the team of
specialists that I needed to be able to give him exactly what he needed. And so
after my kind of pity party, I went about the business of getting him He needed
an Autism Speaks became my go to. There are a lot of other regional
organizations, state organizations, you know, various programs that you can
sign up for. But that was the starting point for me. And the other thing I will
say, yeah, you need team Caleb, you need the speech therapists, occupational
therapists, behavior therapists and things like that, but assemble that
village. And so yeah, that's great advice for parents whose child is is
diagnosed with autism, but for a family member, of a parent of a child who's
diagnosed, let me say something to you. insist on being on the team insist on
being a part of that village. Even when that parent says I got it. They ain't
got it. I don't care how proud they are and how much they insist that nobody
knows their child like them and nobody I need you know, can help them take care
of it. They need help and insist upon it very early on, get involved, let them
know that you are there as a part of that team because there will be days where
they need that break. And they need to know that you understand and can take it
for them. So it takes a village to raise a child but when it comes to a child
on the spectrum, it takes a village more so than ever before.
Rosanna Catalano
31:30
Some good advice. You know, as a career coach, I've worked
with a number of people on the spectrum to help them secure employment. And I'm
wondering, what do you wish more employers or people in general understood
about this disorder?
Juana Watkins
31:47
Yeah. You know, differently able to still able, right.
Autistic people are different, but they are perfectly able they are in some
instances they may struggle with social deficits. But Autism Speaks actually
has a statistic on their website that estimates of 44% of people on the autism
spectrum have an average to above average intelligence 44% it is not by any
stretch of the imagination, a diagnosis that indicates subpar intelligence.
They are just as bright as anyone else. They are just differently abled. And so
for an employer, the one thing that you will come to learn about a person on
the spectrum is they are consistent and dependable so long as you give them
clear instructions, clear guidance and and kind of a stable environment. You
will find no more loyal employee, no more dependable employee, they will be
there on time and they will do their job over and over and over again because
that repetition is what they ride and crave. In terms of how they live their
life, so I wish more employers understand that differently abled does not mean
incapable they are, they are perfectly able just in a different way.
Rosanna Catalano 33:14
So we spent some time talking about you as an attorney, as a
mom as a daughter, or were you like as a kid?
Juana Watkins
33:25
I was. I was a walking contradiction. There was a part of me
that was, you know, shy and reserved and never talked. Then there was this part
of me that was like this little Spitfire who is just sassy and smart mouth and
but for the most part, you know, I love school. And so that was how I spent my
time reading and my bikes growing up were like in pristine condition that never
wrote them because I wanted to be inside watching Sesame Street and Reading
Rainbows, so I was always a bit of a nerd as a child, but also a little bit
spunky.
Rosanna Catalano
34:11
What is the best piece of advice you've ever received?
Juana Watkins
34:15
Goodness, okay, so I have to give you two. Sorry, but I have
to give you two.
Rosanna Catalano
34:20
It's okay.
Juana Watkins
34:21
There is the do what you got to do, then you can do what you
want to do. That's that practical advice for whether it's your homework and
then video games or it's your your job, and then your vacation, right. If you
do what's about to do in life, then you'll be set up to be able to do what you
want to do. So that's the practical down home Southern way of saying get it
done. But the more philosophical advice is the journey of 1000 miles begins
with a single step. You don't have to kind of have the whole journey mapped out
and be able to see everywhere you go in and have the turn by turn GPS
direction, you have to have a destination in mind and you have to be willing to
travel. So those are the two that kind of stick with me most.
Rosanna Catalano
35:24
Well, we like to end our show with a little fun and we asked
all our guests the same seven questions. What would people be surprised to know
about you?
Juana Watkins
35:35
That at any given moment in time, I am the funniest person
in the room. I am not always the serious lawyer, believe me.
Rosanna Catalano
35:47
When you have guests in town, where's your favorite place to
take them?
Juana Watkins
35:52
Disney Springs, every kind of food imaginable. The adults
become kids, the kids enjoy being kids. It's just a great place to spend an
afternoon.
Rosanna Catalano
36:07
What is the name of a book you recently read that you could
not put down or the name of a show you enjoyed binge watching.
Juana Watkins
36:16
I'm more of an audible girl. So instead of a book, I'll give
you a show and it's got to be Game of Thrones. I did not watch it at all when
it was like out into the last season. And the last season that it was on I
binge watched the entire series. So definitely Game of Thrones.
Rosanna Catalano
36:37
Among your close family and friends, what are you best known
for?
Juana Watkins
36:41
The humor I just told you. I have that sense of humor for
being a comedian.
Rosanna Catalano
36:48
If you have a nickname Who gave it to you?
Juana Watkins
36:50
It's every variation of my first name j j, j, all kinds of
variations of j Every family member, I think each sibling has their own
variation of it.
Rosanna Catalano
37:05
If you knew you could not fail, what would you attempt?
Juana Watkins
37:10
I would go to culinary school and be a chef. And I'd
eventually go on some chef hosted by Gordon Ramsay. And win.
Rosanna Catalano
37:24
You're like bring it Gordon.
Juana Watkins
37:25
That's it.
Rosanna Catalano 37:28
what are the top three things you love about living in
Florida?
Juana Watkins
37:34
So definitely the weather, right? Definitely the weather.
God, I love the beaches grew up in Pensacola. I mean that Emerald coast area
panhandle of Florida just didn't get any better than that sugary, right white
sand and those beautiful beaches. It's just it's utopia. And the thing I also
like the third thing I'd say is just The diversity of Florida, Miami and
Pensacola. The key is and Cocoa Beach. Just Florida is like a lot of little
countries all rolled up into one state. Right? So I love the diversity of
Florida. You know the cultural diversity that give graphic diversity. It's just
a beautiful place and eautiful people of all walks of life. And so I've lived
here my whole life and barring something really strange happening. I'll be a
Florida girl or life.
Rosanna Catalano
38:39
I love Florida too. Well, you Juana it's been an absolute
pleasure speaking with you today.
Juana Watkins
38:45
Likewise, thank you so much. It has been an honor and I
appreciate so much an opportunity to share a little bit about who I am.
Rosanna Catalano
39:00
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